the other thing senator collins says in that exchange is that, well, wait a minute, let's not get too far ahead of ourselves because she hasn't even been nominated for the position. and that's what makes this whole thing such an unbelievable circus. they're beating up on someone over a job she hasn't been offered. even though we know, we have a pretty good hunch she's going to be offered it, but the fact that she's being beaten like this before she's been officially designated as hillary clinton's successor is extraordinary to me. >> richard, some of our viewers, and others, have suggested that it may be because she's a woman and that she's black. and that's why the attack has happened. i say some others to include your good self. >> thank you. >> is there also not the opportunity for score-settling because in the past susan rice has been deemed to have slightly sharp elbows so they're using this as a convenient ways it were to get back at her for whatever -- >> look, let's set this into some context here. if what you care about is the state of security in libya and whether -- >> but